Remind Me to Never Comment on the Front Page Ever Again.

"SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)" (sammauri)
04/21/2014 at 17:21 • Filed to: None

Ever.

No, seriously. The front page shall solely be used for reading articles and commenting directly at the author. No one with a burner account on the FP will ever get a response from me again. Here on Oppositelock, I'm happy so say that I feel like part of a huge, international, car based community and even when we disagree with one another, we can usually get into a fairly respectful conversation and actually listen to what other people have to say. Do we always end the conversation by agreeing with the other person? Hell no. But at least we can keep things civilized.

The front page, a place where I used to frequent and voice my opinion often, is a place of untold evil hiding behind colored, pixilated boxes where avatars are normally found. One moment, you try to pick apart a flawed explanation of why hip-hop isn't music (I know we may not all be fans, but come on. Really? Its not even music? Thats a bit harsh) and the next thing you know, you're apparently a "reverse-racist knee jerk white guilted liberal." Was my argument bulletproof and as thought out as my recent term paper? No. Was my initial comment maybe a little bit harsh? I don't think so, but it could have been. Does that make me the spawn of Satan? Apparently, yes it does.

If, for whatever reason, you would like to see the thread that has officially made me give up on the FP, here it is. I will admit that I made a few lofty statements and used one particular phrase that was WAY too broad for what was being talked about, but I'm only human and I don't proof read my posts the way I probably should. So sue me. I warn you, each comment is pretty long and likely not worth your time.

http://jalopnik.com/tl-dr-no-thank…

(I think that should work)

Have some Miura for your time.

DISCUSSION (36)

crowmolly > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 17:23

Not even gonna look. FP can be like the Thunderdome sometimes.

This morning I saw a post on drifting a late model Camaro and most of the information surrounding the rear axle was completely bogus, almost like people felt the need to post because they "saw a Camaro this one time". Unreal.

ttyymmnn > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 17:25

reverse-racist knee jerk white guilted liberal

You mean you're not? Just kidding. Friends don't let friends comment on the FP. Just hang out here in Oppo. It's a very happy place.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 17:25

It is an experience many of us go through, I too learned not to comment on the FP the hard way. Jimmies got rustled, it got ugly.

Gamecat235 > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 17:30

Kinja'd!!!

Also, as a note, I appreciate the method and backstory before you pointed out the conversation. And (putting on my moderator hat), please be careful when directing people to a negative conversation so that it doesn't become a "call to arms" post. We don't need drama here...

And on another topic, the opening comment was ignorant, and I personally would have ignored it unless I was looking to start a debate.

Your boy, BJR > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 17:32

#RAPLOPNIK.

>with exeption of a few gems by tupac

my sides!

Also, whenever someone brings up rush, I tune out.

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > ttyymmnn
04/21/2014 at 17:33

If liking hip-hop and being Spanish makes me a reverse-racist knee jerk white guilted liberal, than yes. Yes I am. Ahaha.

Oppo is a much nicer place than most internet-type places I've been. I'd be more than happy to just spend my time here. Also, here's to pretty much everyone I've interacted with on Oppo for being super nice, helpful, and for not being FP level crazy.

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > crowmolly
04/21/2014 at 17:35

Dude, I saw one of those one time. That makes me an expert on all things Camaro. Those are the cars with the Shaker hoods this year, right? I think Cadillac makes them.

ttyymmnn > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 17:36

Not to get maudlin, but I have yet to find a better community anywhere on the Internet than Oppo. Period.

crowmolly > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 17:40

Yup. If you want a 12 bolt for your 3-4th gen just go get one from a junkyard. I don't see the problem. I mean just because it wasn't ever possible in the 33 years that that rear suspension design has been around doesn't mean it's not possible TODAY.

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > Gamecat235
04/21/2014 at 17:41

I've officially realized that I have no idea who the mods are here. None of you flaunt the moderator status like mods on other sites. God, Oppo is literally the best. But, yeah I definitely didn't mean for this to start any drama. I just felt like sharing an experience. If you think it might cause problems, let me know. I can take it down or add a disclaimer.

Normally I would ignore posts like that, but I had just had a very similar real-life (very civil) conversation and the gears were still turning.

Lekker > ttyymmnn
04/21/2014 at 17:41

So much this.

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > ttyymmnn
04/21/2014 at 17:43

#preach

Gamecat235 > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 17:46

No need to edit the post, and had I really found it offensive, or it clearly been a "guys, I need back up, let's get him" post, I would have edited out the link (we can do that, we rarely, rarely do).

We really strive to be fairly invisible in our roles as moderators. I'm very glad to hear that we are doing that well.

Venting is understood, and to be honest, kind of expected. We are an offtopic community from a primary site with lots of commenter interaction. We just want to make sure that we don't get in the habit of bringing drama back here. Which means we want to not use it as a launching off platform for creating it. =)

davedave1111 > Gamecat235
04/21/2014 at 17:54

We really strive to be fairly invisible in our roles as moderators. I'm very glad to hear that we are doing that well.

It's not so much that you lot are invisible, as that you're such unlikely choices :)

Actually, come to think of it, that may be why it works so well. A lot of places, someone who writes good posts or something might be a moderator, even though that's not a related skill. Here, the mods seem to have been picked for their ability to moderate, which is no bad thing.

Gamecat235 > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 17:56

Also, as an aside, nearly all of us came from the front page. And a good deal of the more experienced commenters are there more than here (PaulJones, Brian The Life Of, $kay, etc) and some (Xander, Jstas, Ash78) haven't been seen around here in ages. Though this was their stomping ground once upon a time. The FP may not always be where everyone gets along, and though it can be (and is) more chaotic... there are some great folks there as well.

But learning who, and how, to engage... is a bit difficult. I've taken a break from it, as it can be very time consuming. But, it is rewarding, and frustrating. Cheers and thanks for understanding!

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > Your boy, BJR
04/21/2014 at 18:10

I was laughing so hard. And that was coming from someone who "grew up on Audio 2, King T, Ice T, Mixalot, NWA, 2Pac... Outkast, Bow Wow, Chamillionaire, Mike Jones, TI, and so on."

Really? Lil Bow Wow? Cool, bro.

Side note, shame on me for not thinking of including Public Enemy on my list of hip-hop artists who touched on social issues.
#RAPLOPNIK needs to become a semi-regular thing.

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
04/21/2014 at 18:13

I've generally had pretty neutral, and even some borderline good conversations on the FP. Lately its been pretty bad...

Why did one straw break the camel's back? Here's the secret:
the million other straws underneath it - it's all mathematics.
-Mos Def

Your boy, BJR > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 18:14

We could do a tag team on a weekly #RAPLOPNIK on oppo- we can post alternating weeks!

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > Your boy, BJR
04/21/2014 at 18:18

That would actually be awesome. I would love doing that.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 18:19

I haven't had any good discussion on there really, I gave up quite a while ago.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 18:24

I may be acting a little stupid, but I'm sick right now so that's my excuse for the following question: FP? What's that? Front Page? And I don't understand what the problem is either...sorry :(

davedave1111 > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 18:26

You have to pick your conversations - don't bother getting into silly fights.

Here's an example of why the FP is actually great: http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/there-are-two-…

A bunch of informative responses from pixelated people like myself.

But always remember:

Kinja'd!!!

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > Gamecat235
04/21/2014 at 18:29

Oh, I know. I always see $kay on the front page and she's always someone I wish other commenters would use as a role model when it comes to commenting and conversing. The only issue is that, often, they are either pretty hidden among the burners or are receiving so many comments that its usually difficult to start up a conversation. Thats obviously not a problem, but the burners are much more likely to chime in which usually end in aggravation. That wasn't the case here, obviously.

I think what I took away from this was that I will, at least for a while, be more of a FP reader than a FP commenter. The content is still what got me into/onto Jalopnik and Oppo, and I still love reading the articles but I think comments will be minimal from my end.

Roberto G. > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 18:32

Never Comment on the Front Page Ever Again. Btw, rap sucksalot and is not music.

desertdog5051 > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 18:33

How quick we learn, how quick we forget.

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > davedave1111
04/21/2014 at 18:33

Oh, I know. I mentioned in response to another comment that the reason I initiated that aggravating conversation is because I had a very similar and very civil conversation about an extremely similar subject in real life. I was hoping for some of the same, which I realize was a little naive.

And I'm not saying that there's nothing positive in the comments on the FP coming from pixilated peoples, but the good seems to be buried in the wtf-inducing or downright bad.

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > Roberto G.
04/21/2014 at 18:35

You're the best <3

davedave1111 > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 18:40

I'd say that, bizarrely unlike other Gawker sites, it's actually the other way around.

Saying that, I've had the odd moment where I've opened Oppo to find a couple of dozen notifications all because I posted on some FP article. Sometimes it's all good, sometimes almost all people who misunderstood a joke or missed the point.

But I think the thread I posted above is a timely example of how good the FP burner system can be. The burners are a much larger population, so sometimes we can draw on their knowledge and experience to get details, corroboration, that kind of thing.

Jalopnik is a very strange place on the internet :)

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
04/21/2014 at 18:42

Yup. FP is the main Jalopnik page. The problem isn't a big one, but just a big aggravating to me. I'm a huge hip-hop head (I'm actually wearing a RUN DMC shirt today) and it bothers me when people are so closed minded. I initially tried to have a somewhat civil conversation with the burner in question and it apparently ended with me being a "reverse-racist knee jerk white guilted liberal" in the eyes of said burner. Its not realy a big deal and didn't effect my day besides making me a little aggravated, and this was basically just me venting. Ahaha.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 18:47

Oh..Sorry about that; I shall find you a picture of a car. What would you like?

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
04/21/2014 at 18:59

See? This is why Oppo is a much more pleasant place. Thank, man!

How about something Porsche from the Porsche Tamer himself. Other than that, I'll leave it up to you (:

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 19:49

Will do bud. I may be dying over here, but don't worry, I'l find you something awesome. :)

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 20:03

Here's what I've got for ya, hope it's enough! *cough cough!*

I may have been Kinja'd on a few of these too..

Kinja'd!!!

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 20:58

On the Miura note, that one's for sale! Better act fast!

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
04/21/2014 at 23:02

Dat Carrera rally pic... Oh lord. It's beautiful.
Thanks again, man. And I hope you feel better asap! Nothing sucks more than being sick and still having to do shit.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
04/21/2014 at 23:10

Thanks! I've got 50 minutes to complete as much of this chem as possible. :)